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alibubbalicious |
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I can't believe Romney just dropped out. My stomach literally just sank.
Bubba
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butterycracka |
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Mine too Ali...
not that I would have necessarily voted for him, but I really liked his stance on a few key issues that are important to me. R.I.P little Gopher. |
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alibubbalicious |
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I really like McCain, I do. And I think he's got great possibility for bringing moderate independents over to vote Republican (like me), but with the way
the conservative left is fighting him tooth and nail, I also think he's got great possibility for not bringing out enough of the Republican base to vote.
Let's take Andy's stance, for example, he said that McCain will fuck shit up just as badly as Hillary or Obama, so he'd rather see a Dem in the
White House doing the shitty job so that nobody can point at the Republicans after four years.
I just don't see it that way. Ugh. So frustrating. I wish McCain would put Romney on the ticket as his VP, but it will never happen. They hate each other. But a McCain/Romney ticket just might fix the problems that McCain is facing with the Republican party. |
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RebeccaBird |
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If anything it will be a McCain/Huckabee ticket as McCain isn't seen as "conservative" enough and Huckabee is. They're also great friends.
Either way, I'm not voting Republican. I just can't. I'm too jaded.
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TheLastDiamond |
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if huckabee wins, i'm moving back to ireland.
i may do the same thing if obama wins. and i have no clue who to vote for on tuesday |
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RebeccaBird |
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Jelly, I'd love to hear your opinions on Obama. I'm fairly in the dark where he's concerned and a bit confused.
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jelly0913 |
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where do i start?
(and he just won virginia's democratic primary. boo) |
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alibubbalicious |
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Bump in case anyone feels like moving the heated discussion from the Hoes thread into a more neutral forum.
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lookieherecookie |
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I gotta say something that I find odd, as a Canadian. Maybe it's not because I'm Canadian but because I'm just a person who doesn't get
American poltics but here's my cornfusion: Why in the hell is everyone so concerned about President Bill Clinton's opinion? Why do Americans still love
this man? Please explain that to me.
He lied to his country. He was almost impeached. Most of his policies failed. His contribution to debt relief in Africa and Third World nations were abysmal. AND, while this doesn't have to do with him per se, his wife didn't divorce his sorry ass because she knew well enough he's her meal ticket to a shot at Presidency (or was). Where am I wrong here? Because I'd love to be wrong about this man. I don't get the hero worship status. Please explain. Kindly yours, Pants |
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alibubbalicious |
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You are soooooooo effin right about Bill.
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mklovesdanger |
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I have never been a fan of Bill.
I am not going to post it here because it could cause some controversy, but if you feel so inclined (and will more likely appreciate it if you lean to the left), go search "daily show sarah palin" on YouTube. Interesting stuff. I really, really like Obama. As a presidential candidate, I did worry a little though because I thought he was more inexperienced than I would have prefered, and at the beginning of all this, I wasn't sure if he was ready to be president. As time has passed though, I do think he has proved himself to be a very worthy candidate and I think he would make a very good president. I liked McCain before he picked Palin for VP. Now, I am slightly disgusted. I know this is supposed to be intelligent political debate and that we all respect everyone's opinions, but this is going to probably be my last post in this thread because I personally have a lot of trouble keeping my cool when it comes to political disagreement.
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alibubbalicious |
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I think we all do, Mer.
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Jeweldarlene |
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I am glad to hear your opinion, Mer. I have been afraid that potential Obama supporters might vote for McCain because of Palin--those who liked Hillary, for
example.
And I would like to say I agree with pants--that the reason Hillary did not divorce Bill was due to her own politial aspirations. I'll bet it's been YEARS since they fucked, or had a "relationship," beyond the political partnership they appear to have. ![]() "The watch is a lot easier to get off and on than a wedding ring." John Mayer, In Style Magazine, Aug. 2006. |
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amanda8501 |
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Mer, You might like this video, here.
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livinks35 |
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Jewel---I think that very few voters who wanted Hillary, will now vote for McCain because he put Palin on the ticket. Her opinions are so far from those of
Hilary, and vice versa. If that was McCain's strategy, I think that is really going to back-fire on him.
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alibubbalicious |
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I don't think that was his strategy.
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livinks35 |
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why do you think he chose her as VP? (serious question, not being sarcastic)
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alibubbalicious |
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1. I think she's more conservative than he is, which means he's potentially recapturing some of the far right who hate McCain to begin with because he
toes the line and works with Democrats so much. These are the people that McCain needs to vote in order to win. Not the independents or jilted Clinton
supporters.
2. She's young, fresh, and stands for change for her party just as much as Obama does for his party. This is for the independents who want to see a new generation in office. 3. She has a history of challenging the system and fighting back against what she sees as corruption, which is McCain's M.O. as well. 4. She's an incredibly powerful public speaker, and let's not kid ourselves. McCain is not. He needs that on the campaign train to combat the elloquence of Obama. 5. The fact that she's a woman does, I will admit, somewhat counteract the whole "vote for Obama because it's such a milestone to have a minority as a candidate" hype. Now there are minorities on both sides of the ticket. The whole election is a milestone, no matter which side you vote for. History will be made. |
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amanda8501 |
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I think one of the main reasons is because her values are far more republican than even McCain's are. Other than that she's young, appeals to women
because she is one, not well know and has "small town values" that Obama has been dogging McCain for not having. I only wish that McCain spoke to her
more than twice before she became is VP, the second time was when he asked her. I respect her background but seeing as how her views on abortion and gays are
so different from mine I would never feel comfortable voting for McCain/Palin.
Edited to say, I didn't see yours until after I posted but I agree with you Ali. |
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livinks35 |
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I agree that having her on the ticket appeals to the conservative far right Republicans, but I can't imagine that those folks wouldn't have voted for
him any way, rather than risk having a Democrat in office. I would think that having someone so conservative on his ticket now, is going to sway those fence
riders (Dems that liked him) away from him.
She is definately an impressive speaker. I guess we'll find out in November if his strategy works for him!
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