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        <![CDATA[ Edit: this thread has already morphed into political discussion, so I&#39;m renaming it to make it easier for folks to find. 



Ok, so by now I&#39;m sure most of us have at least chosen the candidate we&#39;re pulling for to win the primaries for each respective party. You may even
think you know who you&#39;re planning to vote for in the election in 2008. I&#39;m curious to see whether who you think your pick is matches up to who the
candidate calculators tell you your pick should be.


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			<link>http://antilocal-83.com/reply/72447/t/Intelligent-Political-Debate.html#reply-72447</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Her job sounds pretty much awesome. If only she could extend that term a little longer. Haha. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here&#39;s where the Queen of England comes in....we have a Govenor General of Canada. She, Michaelle Jean, makes up a third of the democratic process in
Canada. Govenor Generals have been around since, well a really long time. The role is to basically ensure that the government is following the constitution and
being responsible in their affairs. She must be consulted when a Prime Minister wants to call an election or takes an action which effectively impacts the
Parlaimentary process. She is also Commander in Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces. As Govenor General she is viewed as a &quot;representation of Canada&quot;
to the rest of the world and yes, she consults with The Queen of England about what the hell is happening in Canada. The Queen usually nods off by the way. The
Queen of England appoints the Govenor General on the advice of the Prime Minister and her or his term can last 5-7 years. So they don&#39;t necessarily leave
when the government of Canada does. Wit me?
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			<description><![CDATA[ Haha. I love you.
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And I also love hearing more about your government. We really don&#39;t learn jack shit about that stuff down here and it&#39;s all very fascinating to me
because it&#39;s so very different than ours. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Dear me, that &quot;whole asshole&quot; part wasn&#39;t respectful was it now?
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It&#39;s the JayZ in me.
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			<description><![CDATA[ As you know, our governments run very differently. We just had an election 6 weeks ago. In our constitution you can have a vote of non-confidence, over throw a
minority government, and without an election, place a coalition government from various parties in a governing position.
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What this means is that the Bloc party which has mandated that Quebec be given special status in the constitution and in the past, voted to seperate from
Canada could put their elected officials in cabinet positions which would heavily favour Quebec&#39;s interests. Most folks from Quebec aren&#39;t interested
in seperating anymore so the Bloc needs to keep themselves relevant. This means using tax dollars to pay for special projects directed solely to Quebec.
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The Liberals have, in the past, ushered into policy oil and gax taxation policies that have devasted oil rich provinces like Alberta.
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While Stephen Harper dropped the ball on this one and is absolutely accountable, I... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That sounds a lot like what we&#39;re in for, Nancy. :P ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The Canadian government is likely going down. Oh yeah. Liberals, NDP and Bloc are forming an alliance to overthrow the minority Conservative government. What
does this mean to you? Probably nothing, but to us, taxes and more taxes and more government spending and more &quot;please don&#39;t leave Canada&quot; money
being thrown at Quebec.
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Stephen Harper&#39;s arrogance has cost him dearly. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ DISCLAIMER: I enjoy political debate. A lot. Have since I was in 6th grade (I was an odd kid.) So if some of the things I say seem harsh, it&#39;s not about
you as a person; it&#39;s about the issues I&#39;m addressing. When I feel strongly about something, my writing gets a few barbs thrown into it. Sorry. Also,
on a side note, I was not always decisively an Obama fan. I didn&#39;t vote in the primaries because I couldn&#39;t decide who I liked. At first I was worried
that he was jumping into the presidency too quickly. But he proved himself and gained my whole-hearted support. Anyways, here goes nothing...
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Well, let me start off with this. I think John McCain is a very good man. He&#39;s really intelligent and his concession speech was very gracious and
honorable. My step-grandfather served under his father in the navy. He&#39;s met John McCain himself a few times and really respects him. I remember when he
was running against George Bush in 2000 and that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Gosh, Becky, how do you really feel? ;-) ( you know I&#39;m kidding...I&#39;m glad you posted your opinion)
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I do wonder what might have happened if McCain had chosen a more moderate Republican like himself. It was said he picked Palin to bring in the conservative
vote, but I think he lost more than he gained by doing that, including everyone in my office and most democrats I know who thought he was a reasonable guy and
good candidate. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I wonder what that woman on the news who said that Obama will pay for her mortgage and gas will think in a year when he doesn&#39;t. I guess she wasn&#39;t a
fan of JKF when he said &quot;ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country&quot;. I&#39;m going to sit on the sidelines and
see all this &quot;change&quot; we were promised. So far with Rahm Emmanuel as Chief of Staff it&#39;s already comical. Emmanuel HATED Hillary Clinton when he
was on the Clinton staff. For those just now joining the political process, the COS is the top aid and basically the guy you have to go through to get to the
POTUS as well as sets the tone of the administration. Emmanuel is as partisan as you get and once sent a dead fish to someone he didn&#39;t like. Personally, I
think a horse head in the bed makes a bolder statement. 
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<a target="_blank"... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ For the record, as someone on the very far left, I had very few problems with McCain until he selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. I think he would have
made a good president, but the thought of even the possibility of Sarah Palin as president had me in a blind panic.
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I also am not a HUGE Obama fan. I like him, I think he has the ability to do great things for the country, but I am not 100% confident that he is actually
will. I am hoping, and I will support him along the way, but I will absolutely bitch and complain as much as I have been the past eight years if he fucks up. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ok, then let&#39;s compare apples to apples, shall we? I can say, without hesitation, that if McCain had won, the same leftie folks who spat the venom at Bush
would have been spitting the venom at McCain. Never mind the fact that McCain was despised by the conservative right because of his extensive efforts crossing
party lines and that most conservatives considered him a democrat trying to run on the republican ticket. But the left wouldn&#39;t have given a shit about any
of that. Wouldn&#39;t have cared that McCain was also trying for change. That he was not, in fact, George W.&#39;s evil twin brother come to carry on the exact
same administration. So forgive me if it gets my irish up when I hear Obama backers complaining about conservatives discounting Obama or voicing their concerns
about the direction he may lead the country. It doesn&#39;t get much more hypocritical in my eyes. Your boy won. You (generally speaking) have been bitching
and crying for the past 8 years. You... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Allie and Brenda, you hit the nail right on the head. Thank you! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Great leadership is not just about how much experience a person has. It&#39;s about knowing HOW to lead people. I have no fear at all that Obama will lead us
in a path that will be detrimental to our country. Will things go perfectly, no. But, I think he has the best of everyone in mind. I think he sees the big
picture and he will work to do what is in the best interest of everyone.
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And, agree totally with you, Allie. People need inspiration and hope right now. I think it&#39;s astounding how he was able to get so many people involved in
what was happening and want to get out and vote, and campaign. Obama is a very smart man and he likely knows what his limitations are and will put people
around him who have the knowledge he doesn&#39;t. He picked the perfect VP in Joe Biden, someone who had what he didn&#39;t have, years in Washington and
experience with foreign affairs.
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We also can&#39;t just say, &quot;ok Obama, we&#39;ve elected you, now go and fix it.&quot;... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I love that Allie is 12 and smarter than us all.
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Hi Allie. I miss you. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I am with you, Junior. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ ugh, i wrote a response and it got deleted. i won&#39;t be able to word it as well this time around. but, basically..
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i don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair to compare the responses to the respective elections of george w. bush (or, at least his re-election) and that of barack obama
on the same level. though i agree that many people on the left were absurdly critical of bush, causing the valid concerns of many to lost with the abyss of
&quot;he looks like a monkey&quot;-type commentaries, i do think that americans have every right to be unhappy with him as a president. he not only made many
mistakes, but he not once did he try to fix these mistakes that were so clear to everyone else, including members of his own party. there&#39;s a reason he
wasn&#39;t on the campaign trail. it was valid for liberals to be in an uproar when he was re-elected (i will not say the same thing for his election the first
time--everyone deserves a chance.)
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i am so incredibly happy that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Amen, Jelly.
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Iowa voted to eliminate wording that referred to anyone identified as an &quot;idiot or insane person&quot; as prohibited from voting. The measure would change
the language to read &quot;a person adjudged mentally incompetent to vote.&quot; That was our excitement.  Seriously, I want to know who voted against it.
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			<description><![CDATA[ it&#39;s such bullshit. if MA tries to pull this, i&#39;ll be all over it. i&#39;ll be moving back (7 MONTHS!!) and i&#39;ll fight it with all i&#39;ve got.
don&#39;t we have actual problems to deal with in this country?
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			<description><![CDATA[ Prop 8 passed. Fuck you 52% of California voters. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Edit: this thread has already morphed into political discussion, so I&#39;m renaming it to make it easier for folks to find. <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif" alt="image">
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Ok, so by now I&#39;m sure most of us have at least chosen the candidate we&#39;re pulling for to win the primaries for each respective party. You may even
think you know who you&#39;re planning to vote for in the election in 2008. I&#39;m curious to see whether who you think your pick is matches up to who the
candidate calculators tell you your pick should be.
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I took both of these quizzes and was slightly surprised to find that who I think I want to vote for did not come out as my top choice in either. Post your
results from the quiz (if you&#39;re comfortable doing so) and let us know whether that matches up with who you&#39;re backing.
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